‘Trust the scones, not the reindeer’ - An Assembly Address from Barny Pearce

March 6, 2026

“Follow your heart.” “Do what feels right.” “Let your emotions lead”. We’re told this by countless popular songs and films. Not that I’d know, being more of a “Newsnight man”… but I was surprised about how many of the following even I instantly recognised.


"It mattered not that you could not close your mind. It was your heart that saved you," says Dumbledore to Harry Potter.

“Search your feelings, you know it to be true,” says Darth Vader to Luke Skywalker, right after saying “I am your father”.

Many songs – from Aretha Franklin to Billie Eilish – are literally called “Follow your heart”, and while I appreciate Swedish rock ballads are a tad niche, Roxette’s “Listen to your heart" sums it up, as well as being – to use a technical musical term – a proper 80s banger.


Can you finish this one…? “Reindeers are better than people; Sven, why is love so hard?” … “You feel what you feel, and your feelings are real… c’mon Kristoff, let down your guard”? And if you can’t get advice from a talking reindeer…


You feel what you feel, and your feelings are real… This contains truth: feelings matter. Empathy drives ethical behaviour. Fear highlights danger. Persistent feelings of worry tell us something isn’t right. Our bodies give us vital signs: stress, exhaustion, illness, low mood. Those feelings matter; don’t ignore those.


But how often does “following your heart” actually lead you to start a long, difficult homework task? Upper 5 and 6: you know this: when you just don’t feel like that next revision slot; when you feel less like locking in, and more like lying down and waiting ‘til you do feel like it.


In 2004, I worked in a window-frame warehouse. It was exactly as exciting as it sounds, and such were the friendships I’d made on the job that I’d spend lunchbreaks in my car, by myself. Those lunchbreaks blur in my memory, apart from one: a speaker on the radio was saying that we so often let actions follow emotions – we listen to our hearts, we do what feels right – not realising that, more often, emotions follow actions.


This felt like news, but I bet you already know that emotions follow actions. How often do you just not feel like getting on the bus into school, or going to training in the rain – only to feel better when you get there? You felt what you felt – but now you feel loads better; emotions followed actions.


I started to see this everywhere. C. S. Lewis, author of the Chronicles of Narnia, applied it to the issue of faith:

“Faith,” he said, “is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods. Moods will change, whatever view your reason takes... Now that I am a Christian, I do have moods in which the whole thing looks very improbable. …Unless you teach your moods ‘where they get off, [you’re] just a creature dithering to and fro, its beliefs really dependent on the weather and the state of its digestion.”


Emotions matter, and sometimes we’ll need support to work through them – I’ve certainly been there – but it can also be empowering to know that we aren’t always bound to follow how we feel. The talking reindeer tells us to let down our guard; but our reading today said quite the opposite: guard your heart; fix your eyes ahead.


In two places, I’ve found this game-changing. First: friendships. Falling-out is inevitable in relationships, and often, the last thing we feel like is speaking to the person. But two people have taught me to guard my heart on that one.


One is Nelson Mandela. Mandela spent 27 years imprisoned by a white minority government. Released in 1990, Mandela felt real resentment towards those who locked him up – but here’s what he said about it:

“Our emotions said, the white minority is an enemy – we must never talk to him. But our brains said, if you don’t talk to these men, your country will go up in flames… So we had to reconcile that conflict: our talking to the enemy was the result of the domination of the brain over emotions.”


I also learned this through scones. Eating scones in the kitchen of an older relative shortly before my wedding, she told me: “scones have saved my marriage”. Now, I like a scone, but this confused me. She went on: whenever she and her husband fell out and could barely speak to each other, she’d bake a batch of scones, which she knew he liked. She didn’t feel like it: she’d begin angry and resentful – but acting in love always helped rebuild the feeling of love she didn’t, at that moment, feel.


 “Emotions follow actions” also applies to work.

Do you ever try waiting until you “feel like” doing homework or revising, only to find out – shock-horror! – that the feeling never arrives?


Let’s see how Frozen 2 reindeer wisdom sounds here. A pupil might say (perhaps even sing): “TV feels more fun than learning – Sir, why is work so hard?” How to respond?! “You feel what you feel, and your feelings are real… c’mon pupils, put down your flashcaaards…”?


As much as we love the talking reindeer – and as much as we really do need to listen to our bodies and reach out for help around tiredness, stress and low mood – we’re often going to need to tell our moods where to get off when it comes to revision.


Because, yes… Movies feel more fun than mind-maps… Block-blast feels more fun that blurting… Posts feel more fun than past papers… And Traitors feels more fun than spaced retrieval practice (and that one doesn’t even alliterate).


BUT—but… often, emotions follow actions. It’s why my relative baked scones. Why Mandela talked to the enemy. Why you drag yourself onto the bus or out to training: so often, emotions follow action; it feels better when you get there.


Reaching across a relational breakdown helps rebuild the love you didn’t feel. Cracking on with revision creates the positivity you were waiting for, but which would never have arrived without that first step.


So often, we linger outside the door of hard things, waiting for good feelings to carry us through.



But when we guard our hearts and get in the room, we so often discover those feelings – confidence, energy, the satisfaction of learning well done – they were on the other side the whole time, waiting for us to walk in… not like a dog, who bounds up to meet you the moment you get through the door – or is that just my rasculous hound? No: more like a cat, who, invisible at first, waits to check that you’re really home, but before you know it slips in silently to purr by your side.


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By Eleanor Lewis April 29, 2026
Now here’s a question. What do the following have in common: Heads of Houses Mr Cann and Mr Gent, Miss Adams in Drama, Mr Seaman in Art & Design, Mr Palmer (Print Room), recent graduates Miss Bartram and Mr Thornton in Carter, Miss Clark in Music and Miss Davies in Marketing, Mr Catchpole and Mr Cooper in Daynes, Mr Love, Mrs Anna Curtis, Miss Temple and Mr Newman in the Lower School? If you’ve not worked it out yet, the answer is they are all former pupils of the school, Old Norvicensians, or ONs for short. All work here at Norwich School. My name is Jonathan Pearson, I am an ON and I too work here as the school’s Development Director. One of my key roles is working with ONs, so, understandably, I am delighted many are employed here. The career paths of ONs is the theme of today’s assembly. This list got me reflecting on what occupations my fellow 1987 leavers have pursued nearly 40 years on. It is of little surprise that high-flyers continue to have very public success: Surgeon Paul Manning is now head of the UK’s largest private healthcare company; Charles Forsdick is Professor of French at Cambridge University; career diplomat John Virgoe is the UK’s Envoy to the Commonwealth. Stellar careers all. But what about the 1980s school rebels? Well, Andy Roberts and Tom Wood were regulars in the Deputy Head’s office for various misdemeanours: uniform infringements, non-regulation hair length or colour, partying-related hijinks etc. Yet that same defiant streak now displays itself in savvy, entrepreneurial drive which has seen both set up, lead and sell self-made companies. Many of us were hardworking and unassuming, following all the rules and successfully progressing up the career ladder, modestly and without fuss. This is typified by friends Paul Grainger and Scott Pinching. Both stayed locally and enjoyed fruitful jobs in Financial Services. I greatly admire those who had the courage to follow their dreams: Phil Halls founded and runs award-winning Grain Breweries and Marcus Nash runs a respected birdwatching tour company. I am constantly in awe of what ONs achieve and the positive contribution they make to society beyond Cathedral Close. The point is you will do so too one day. What will your career look like after school, do you think? I strongly suspect if you tried to guess, you would be hopelessly wrong. Perhaps in 40 years’ time you will remember sitting in Cathedral with your whole life ahead of you wondering what the future holds. It is hugely empowering, but a bit scary at the same time. Now, I’m no fortune teller, but I can be pretty confident about five reflections I wanted to share with you today: Firstly, have confidence. Norwich School equips you well for the outside world. You will have academic rigour, but also many desirable, softer skills: intellectual curiosity; confidence; resilience; humanity; dependability; an ambition to lead and to serve. These traits will stand you in good stead. Every one of you will be a great asset to future employers. Secondly, embrace help. Navigating the world of work is tricky. Recent research from the Office for National Statistics shows there are 957,000 16–24 year olds not in work, education or training and that figure has risen sharply post-covid. Finding a job today requires perseverance, skill, some luck and a great deal of effort. However, welcome help is at hand. On leaving school you all automatically become lifelong ONs. We have over 400 ON Ambassadors, who have pledged to give free advice about next steps. Virtually all career paths are covered. Check out the latest ON magazine for details. This is a seriously valuable resource, so do use it. These are ONs who remember only too well the challenges of getting started. They genuinely want to help. Thirdly, embrace change. I wholeheartedly agree with Mrs Warren’s assembly in March 2025 on squiggly careers. You are likely to have multiple career paths. I have had three career pivots myself in my 37 years in the workplace. Change is positive. It keeps life exciting, so harness it. Fourthly, look to the future. I remember my Sixth Form tutor telling me I’d end up doing a job not yet invented. What a load of rubbish, I remember thinking. At that time, I was contemplating a career as a librarian. I thought, to find something out, you looked it up in a physical book. That’s what everyone did. In 1985 I could little have imagined that within four years the internet would be invented, followed by Wikipedia, Kindles and the like. My childish over-confidence was hopelessly misplaced. It’s exciting that you will be doing jobs straight out of tomorrow’s world. A.I. will have the same transformational impact on your lives as the internet has had on mine. And lastly, bank on a long working life. I wager you will be working into your seventies before retiring. Now there’s a thought! My official state pension age is 67, but advances in medicine, nutrition and living standards mean we’re all living and working longer. I suspect you have 50 years of working life ahead. That’s too long to be spent doing a job you don’t enjoy or careers just to meet your parents’ aspirations. A quote often attributed to the Chinese sage Confucius runs: “Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life.” So, consider following the example of the ON brewer or the ON birdwatcher and do something that really excites your passion. Well, what about me? If I look deep into my heart the day I left school, I confess I did not want to leave The Close at all. I had very much enjoyed my nine years here and the friendships I’d made, so would happily have stayed. But of course, I didn’t. After University, I moved into property and law, then into pharmaceuticals, but something inescapable pulled me back, and in February 2018 I started working here. Norwich School must be doing something right if all 15 ONs at the start of today’s assembly wanted to come back here too. So, perhaps I have followed my dreams after all, and maybe you should too. To all those leaving this July, I convey best wishes for your future from ONs all round the world.  Enjoy the rest of your day, and thanks for listening.
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