INTERVIEW WITH PROFESSOR CHARLES FORSDICK (ON 78 - 87)

September 12, 2023

On Friday 8 September, we were honoured to welcome Professor Charles Forsdick ON, as guest speaker for Prizegiving September 2023. Professor Forsdick is Drapers Professor of French (elect) at the University of Cambridge, Fellow of the British Academy, a Member of the Academy of Europe and a former pupil at Norwich School. During his time with us, Professor Forsdick was kind enough to answer some questions we had for this inspirational ON...

When were you at Norwich School?



From 1978 to 1987. I was an exact contemporary of Jonathan Pearson, your Development Director, who remains a close friend.


What House were you in?

The legendary Coke house.

What did you study for A Level and what did you go on to study at University? French, German and Latin. Then Modern Languages at New College, Oxford


Can you tell us a bit about your career since leaving school?

Having graduated in Modern Languages from Oxford University, my PhD in French Studies at Lancaster soon followed, resulting in a lectureship post up in Scotland at the University of Glasgow. At 31 years of age, I was appointed the James Barrow Professor of French at the University of Liverpool where I have stayed for over 22 years, during which I was elected a Fellow of the British Academy and Member of the Academy of Europe.

I am hugely excited to be taking up the Drapers’ Professorship of French at the University of Cambridge next month.

I am pleased to have been associated with the school for over four decades and have also been helping with your WoLLoW initiative of late.


What was your fondest memory of being a pupil at NS?

There’s lots of competition for that. I remember I particularly used to enjoy the annual sponsored 24-hour football, which was great fun.


However, the best memories have got to be the school exchange trips to France and to Germany. We went to Wissembourg in Alsace, and we went to Linz in Germany. It was always a great privilege to stay with families, to experience everyday French and German life, and to improve the language skills alongside it.


I spend quite a lot of time now campaigning to make sure that experience is still available to pupils in the 21st century, post Brexit and post pandemic, because it’s getting increasingly difficult. Those are absolutely my fondest memories.

Are you still in touch with friends you made at the School?


I am. I’ve maintained really good friendships with a number of people I was at school with. Some of them are still in Norfolk, some located more widely around the country and the world. I think what’s interesting, 35+ years on, is that people are doing very different things, but we’ve all got those shared memories of times here. As you get older, I think they become increasingly important.


Returning as a visitor to the school today, what are the biggest changes you noticed?

Obviously, the body of pupils has changed quite radically, particularly with the admission of girls. Having been around the school a few times recently, the thing that strikes me most is the way in which pupils are now purposefully prepared with a sense of social responsibility. They’re really nurtured in ways that makes them ready to face up to a lot of the challenges of the 21st century and, ideally, to be part of the solution as well. That is part of what we did, but it was less clearly embedded, and that’s something that really impresses me now.


Looking back what nugget of advice or top tip would you give Charles F on his first day of school?

I’m just trying to picture me as that little 9-year-old from Dereham crossing the threshold for the first time….

Back then, I would not have been aware of a bit of Norfolk wisdom which I think is absolutely essential, and it’s the UEA motto, Do Different. It’s advice that I draw on regularly now. I would apply it back then and say: ‘Embrace it at every opportunity that comes to you and work really hard to ensure you play your part in a happy diverse inclusive environment. However, within all that, plough your own furrow.’ I think in retrospect I tried to do that, but whether as an 9-year-old you’re conscious of that, I don’t know.


Any tips for our existing pupils?

This is going to be really obvious but I’m going to share it anyway. I think what’s really important (both in formal education but in life-long learning as well) is to retain your curiosity and make sure that your knowledge base is as broad as possible.


Going back to something I said earlier, in terms of what impresses me about the school now, it’s clear that we need to prepare pupils, students, and all young people to face up to the major challenges in the 21st century. There’s probably no ready solution to them but we’ve got to grapple with them nevertheless. To do that I always think we need resources which are drawing from across a broad range of areas.


I am really frustrated by the overspecialisation that the UK education system tries to impose on us, particularly at A Level. One thing I would say is if somebody wants to study STEM subjects that’s very good, but never forget you can do two sciences and add a humanities subject to that. I’d obviously particularly recommend a language-based subject.


However, key to that curiosity and broad knowledge base is, I believe, being able to make choices that give you a real breadth of experience so you can work across disciplines and academic fields, deploying a whole range of knowledge and skills, no matter what life throws at you.

 

You can read Professor Forsdick’s inspirational address here:

Deputy Lord Mayor, Head, Chair of Governors, families and friends, members of the school…

Many thanks for your kind introduction – and also for the invitation to present the prizes and to speak this evening. I have many good memories of the end-of-term speech days during my own time at Norwich School. When I told my mother I was the guest of honour this evening she replied, ‘They used to invite distinguished people to do that’, listing the Governor of the Bank of England, an MEP and others – but I am so honoured to be with you, and I am pleased that my mother, who has been an indefatigable supporter of me throughout my studies and subsequent career, could be here tonight also. This seems like an appropriate point to pause to acknowledge the contribution of all your parents, family and friends accompanying you this evening. I am sure they have been equally supportive in your endeavours and are rightly proud of your achievements that we have gathered to celebrate. I also, of course, pay tribute to the work of your teachers, without whom this event simply would not take place. It is with particular pleasure that I am able to join you on an evening when my own inspirational French teacher Humphrey Bedford-Payne is receiving a long service award – he doesn’t look a day older than when I first encountered him in 1983.


As an academic, I attend numerous graduations. They are events that I always relish because I know that each person crossing the stage has their own individual story: about how they have reached this point in their studies, about what the current achievement represents in their onward journey. Some of you are just beginning your careers at Norwich School, others are preparing for Higher Education, for apprenticeships, or for the world of work. Tonight, we have gathered to celebrate all of your academic achievements and your contributions to the broader life of this place. One of the great privileges of studying at Norwich School is the opportunity it affords to grow in confidence, in knowledge and in experience in the environment of this magnificent Cathedral precinct. This is surely one of the most beautiful places in the historical built environment of our country. It was here that – like many of you – I had the privilege of studying languages, ancient and modern, I was given the opportunity –through visits and exchanges – to experience life abroad, I was able to develop friendships that continue over four decades on.


In preparation for these reflections tonight, I returned to an essay I wrote in 1986 and for which I was lucky enough to win the Friends’ Local History Prize. It was a study of the life and work of George Henry Borrow. Those of you lucky enough to live in East Dereham will already be familiar with this 19th-century traveller, novelist and translator. Borrow was also an Old Norvicensian who claimed to speak over forty languages and who is remembered in particular for his extensive engagement with the Romani communities of Britain and Ireland, as reflected in remarkable books such as Lavengro and The Romany Rye. In my youthful exuberance, I made a strong case for the school to forget Admiral Nelson and instead to celebrate Borrow. I mention him tonight – this Norfolk-born, cosmopolitan polyglot – because he encapsulated, already in the Victorian period, many of those qualities that I believe essential to our navigation of the diverse challenges we now face in the twenty-first century. These are qualities that are essential to what is increasingly termed ‘Global Citizenship’, by which we mean those social, political, environmental and economic actions and values of any globally minded individuals and communities committed to dwelling well in the world. ‘Global Citizenship’ is required more urgently than ever in a context of rising populism, with the increased intolerance, hardening of borders and dehumanization of others this so often entails. It is about recognizing how decisions in one part of our planet can affect people living in an entirely different area of it, and about how we all share a common humanity, and are of equal worth. It means being open to engaging positively with other languages, identities and cultures, including those at the heart of our own community and society. It is also about how we use and share the earth’s resources fairly and uphold the human rights of all.


You will not be surprised to learn that, in my view, language learning – with its openness to multilingualism and challenge to the limitations of monolingualism – is central to the development of such a mindset. I am not only talking, however, about linguist competence as an end in itself – although, as a professor of French, I am of course a fierce advocate of the benefits of language learning, and I join you in celebrating the WoLLoW programme about which the Head has just spoken so powerfully. It goes without saying, I hope, that languages are as essential to our economic health as a nation as they are to our individual cognitive well-being. The celebration and defence of languages are as much a key driver for collective social cohesion in the UK as they are for our cultural enlightenment. To return to George Borrow, what he represents for me is not only this glorious potential of speaking and thinking and living in multiple languages – but also the associated ability to be rooted in the local, in the here and now, while remaining open to the world. It is such an approach that forces us to challenge parochialism, to deny reductive, polarised understandings of cultural and social and political realities, and to see the world in its complex and at times deeply troubling interrelatedness.


I have many happy memories of my time at Norwich School, notably in the languages classroom where I was inspired by brilliant teachers, including Humphrey himself, but also John Grainger and John Benns. In the art studio, I learnt so much from John Walker – and am delighted to know that John’s unbounded creativity continues to be so evident in the everyday life of the school. I also often also recall time in the local history library, where I was taught so much about this city and about the wider county of Norfolk by Paul Cattermole. Too often, academic historians dismiss local history as their subject’s poor relation. What I took from that work, however, was this understanding of the ways in which the local and the global are inevitably entwined. Those outside our wonderful county often ignore the key role that Norfolk played in the Medieval European economy and culture. To give you a concrete indication of this, let’s not forget that the stones surrounding us, from which this magnificent cathedral was raised, this light creamy-yellow Jurassic limestone known as the pierre de Caen, were quarried in north-western France and brought by boat up the River Wensum almost a millennium ago in a remarkable feat of engineering. Places like Wiveton and Blakeney were major European ports. And Norwich itself was a cosmopolitan, multilingual city. My contemporary Chris Joby, after whom one of tonight’s awards is named, has studied this remarkable diversity. He notes in particular the large number of Dutch and French speakers in this city in the early modern period. And with that diversity came a tradition of hospitality. Strangers’ Hall Museum reminds of the refugee communities – initially Dutch, Walloon and Flemish weavers who fled the low countries in the 16th century, but later Huguenots and many others – who came to Norwich, bringing their skills, traditions, languages and cultures to make such significant contributions to this place. You should be proud that Norwich continues that tradition as a current City of Sanctuary, part of an important national movement – building a culture of welcome for people seeking refuge, many of whom have lost their homes, fled persecution, and now find safety here.


A number of you here this evening have completed your studies at Norwich School and are preparing for significant next steps in your lives. Congratulations again on what you have achieved. Take with you the learning, the values and the friendships you have acquired in this place. Wherever you are going next, retain your sense of curiosity, especially about what is beyond your comfort zones. Take every opportunity to learn, recognizing that education is a life-long, constantly transformative process. Wherever your studies, your travels, your careers, your lives and loves may take you, I am confident you will be equipped to negotiate the inevitable challenges along the way. Remain rooted in an awareness of your immediate surroundings, in an attention to their wonderful detail, but stay open to the complexities of the wider world. As citizens of this world – through your engagement with languages, cultures, societies, sciences, politics, economics, philosophy, ethics – be willing to grapple and celebrate with those links between the local and the global that surround us – links that I hope I have managed to evoke tonight.


By Eleanor Lewis November 11, 2025
In October half term, Freddie and Arthur Dannatt travelled to Sierra Leone to take part in the marathon for Street Child, as well as seeing some of the charity's brilliant work. Arthur and Freddie commented; "Of course we expected to be impressed by the work of Street Child but we were blown away by the scale and spirit of it. The day we spent visiting families receiving enterprise support from Street Child in the Kroo Bay-a slum of Freetown; and our day visiting ‘first ever’ schools Street Child had built in remote villages outside Kenema - will stay with us for a very long time. The marathon will also stay with us a long-time! It was so beautiful, totally shattering and great fun! Finally, although we came primarily to run the Sierra Leone marathon and to visit the work of Street Child - we also want to say how beautiful Sierra Leone is! Tokeh fishing beach is incredible. The landscape everywhere is stunning. We also visited the former slave fort at Bunce Island which was both fascinating, and horrifying . You don’t need a marathon to justify a visit to Sierra Leone - it is amazing!!" To find out more or donate click here
By Anna Stevenson November 10, 2025
No one is perfect; making mistakes is part of our growth. Instead of crumbling under the weight of regret, as difficult as it might sometimes seem, we should try to learn from every experience. So often we slip up, do things that get us in trouble or make us feel silly and we see it as a massive error, and can even spiral into dark and dreadful mental places. Today I want to convince you that mistakes are not just normal – they are essential. In fact, some of the best things in life started off with someone doing something wrong. The Bible encourages us to turn our failures into stepping stones for improvement. This transformation requires a willingness to reflect, ask for guidance, and lean on God for wisdom through our struggles. We can all develop greater strength and character when we commit to learning from the errors we all make.  Illustrating this point is not too difficult as things go wrong all the time. Just the other day I walked into the packed common room at breaktime, only for a colleague to point out that I was wearing my jumper inside out. It turned out to be back to front as well. There are of course several personal anecdotes I could use, but instead let’s look at some other examples… My favourite piece of stationery came about in the world due to a mistake. You've probably all used these items at one point or another, for revision or making lists. In the 1960s, a scientist called Dr Spencer Silver was working on creating a super-strong adhesive glue. What he actually made was... the exact opposite; a glue so weak it could barely hold paper together. His colleagues initially laughed at him and dismissed his efforts, and probably went onto invent something ostensibly much better….But then someone had the genius idea of using this pathetic looking non sticky glue for bookmarks, and the Post-It note was born. In 1999, NASA lost its Mars Climate Orbiter because one engineering team made their calculations using imperial units (inches/pounds) while another team used metric units (centimetres/kilograms). This was very silly. The spacecraft entered Mars’ atmosphere too low and disintegrated. This maths mistake cost a whopping $125 million. But it led to better communication protocols in space engineering. In 1928, Dr Alexander Fleming – a Scottish surgeon who was famously untidy, went on holiday and left a dirty petri dish out by mistake. Many of you know what happened next. This was pretty normal for him – his experiments took place in a tiny little turret room in St Mary’s hospital, London. He had around 30-40 plates of bacteria on his bench, sourced from infected hospital patients, and when he returned from his trip, he noticed, as he inspected the staphylococcus bacteria, that something had changed – mould was now growing on it. Noticing that the mould seemed to be preventing the bacteria around it from growing, he started experimenting, and soon identified that this mould produced a self-defence chemical that could kill bacteria. There is a far more technical word for this but I will refer to it as mould juice. He'd discovered penicillin - the first antibiotic. Well, this mistake has saved lives – an estimated 500 million lives in fact. You'll make mistakes - we all do. In your studies, in your singing, in your tests and in class; (maybe even before class) in your relationships; in your hairstyle choices even. They won’t feel good at the time, especially when made in public. Think about how embarrassing and inconvenient it is when you leave your lanyard at home. But it's important not to fear them. Most are solvable and most lead to learning opportunities. They’re brain gold. They’re how you grow. Because mistakes don’t mean “stop”. They mean you’re exploring, you’re trying. Mistakes are indeed lessons. The Bible provides a robust framework for understanding the human experience. Through its various books and verses, it offers insights into the nature and consequences of making mistakes, and urges us to push on and to ensure that we live life to its fullest, despite our imperfections. I also think that trusting in God allows us to learn valuable lessons from our mistakes – in the book of Proverbs (chapter 3, verses 5-6) which is a collection of brilliant little pockets of wisdom and advice, the writer tells us to “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”. Instead of relying on our flawed and human understanding, we can seek His wisdom and grace which guides us towards better choices in the future.
By Anna Stevenson November 6, 2025
Lower 3 pupil, Max Wright, has been selected for the National Children's Orchestra of Great Britain. We hear from Max about this exciting new adventure for him... "I was really happy to find out in October that I’ve been selected to play cello for the National Children’s Orchestra of Great Britain in 2026. I’ll be in the Projects Orchestra for children aged 8-14, and will take part in two weekends in Birmingham in the Spring and Summer, with additional online activities and webinars, which I’m sure will be a great experience. I’ve only played in string orchestras before, so this is going to be a bit of a change playing in a full orchestra and I can’t wait to meet the other players. I’ll have to learn quite a bit of new music too and new compositions but I’m excited for the challenge! The auditions for NCO are by video and you have to record two contrasting pieces without stopping – I found this harder to do than it sounds. It’s quite difficult to get a good video without too many mistakes! I also had to talk about the music I like playing. There will be lots to learn but I’m really looking forward to it!"
By Eleanor Lewis November 6, 2025
Our cultural programme of lectures held with partner organisations carries on apace this autumn. On 6th November 2025 we welcomed back the illustrious Royal Geographical Society (RGS) to the Blake Studio for a fascinating evening of exploration. Billed as an ‘conversation with a traveller into unknown lands’ we were delighted to host Hilary Bradt MBE. She is the founder of Bradt Travel Guides, a publisher of respected travel guidebooks. She ran the company for 35 years until retirement in 2007. In her long career, she has travelled extensively and garnered multiple accolades for her travel writing and charity work, especially in Madagascar, a country which has long fascinated her. See: Hilary Bradt - Wikipedia . The evening comprised her being interviewed by FRGS and ON parent Sara White, herself a well-travelled conservationist and Trustee of Explorers Against Extinction . With humour and many fine tales of her adventures, the interview covered Hilary’s experiences travelling to lesser-known locations – by hitch-hiking and bus – long before the days of mass travel, and more recently her escapades as a fearless octogenarian. She also reflected on her business ‘adventure’ starting her successful guidebook series introducing travellers to remote places. It was also illuminating to hear her take on sustainable travel and the impact of tourism on vulnerable, remote peoples and places. Hilary also shared her perceptions of the palpable benefits travel can give to local communities when done respectfully and sensitively. A large audience of alumni, staff, parents, Fellows of the RGS and friends enjoyed an informative Q&A over refreshments afterwards. Our next RGS event happens shortly. It sees the welcome return for the fourth year in succession of our Youth Microlectures Series held in partnership with the RGS. On Tuesday 18 th November at 17:00 in the Blake Studio a hand-picked selection of sixth formers from schools across Norfolk will each present a 10-minute talk followed by 5 minutes of Q&A. Our programme of lectures covers a wide range of topical interests relating to our fragile planet and its ecosystems. Mouthwatering prospects include talks on extreme weather, the monarch butterfly, the Antarctic economy, and the human cost of our clothing amongst others. The evening will be led by our own Dr Anthony Speca FRGS FRSA and by the highly acclaimed Tim O'Riordan OBE DL FBA , Emeritus Professor of Environmental Sciences at the UEA, both prominent environmental educationalists and advocates. Entry is free, so do come to support our young geographers. 
By Eleanor Lewis November 6, 2025
On Thursday 6 November, we were treated to an exceptional Concordia Recital in the Lower School Hall – a delightful showcase of 3 pupils who are excelling in their chosen instrumental studies. The recital opened with Betsy Chaun presenting a thoughtfully curated piano programme that spanned eras and styles. She began her recital with Germaine Tailleferre’s Sonate alla Scarlatti, a charming neoclassical gem whose bright textures and rhythmic playfulness Betsy captured with clarity and poise. Her articulation in the quick passages showed an impressive command for a performer of her age. Next came Richard Clayderman’s A Comme Amour, offering a lyrical contrast to the opening. Betsy’s sensitive phrasing and gentle rubato conveyed a real sense of musical maturity, allowing the melody to sing beautifully above a delicate accompaniment. With Béla Bartók’s Stamping Dance, Betsy shifted gear once again, throwing herself into the percussive rhythms and bold harmonies with confidence and energy. The performance was vibrant and rhythmically assured, a testament to both her technique and her evident enjoyment of the music. Her penultimate piece, Haydn’s Sonata in F Major, Allegro, brought a return to classical elegance. Betsy’s crisp articulation and buoyant tempo captured the composer’s wit and grace, while her dynamic contrasts lent freshness to every phrase. She concluded with Alexis Ffrench’s Last Song, a modern, expressive work that allowed her to show her lyrical side once more. The quiet, reflective ending drew a gentle hush from the audience — a perfect way to close a beautifully balanced programme. Following Betsy’s virtuosic performance, Georgia Cornell du Houx brought a touch of magic to the evening with repertoire for the Harp. Beginning with an excerpt from Christina Perri’s A Thousand Years, Georgia wove familiar melodies into shimmering textures that filled the hall with warmth. Her second piece, Jeremiah Clarke’s Chaconne, was an elegant nod to the Baroque period, performed with remarkable control and poise. The clarity of her finger work and her sensitivity to phrasing demonstrated impressive technical assurance. Georgia concluded with the popular Flower Duet from Delibes’ Lakmé, its graceful harmonies perfectly suited to the harp’s luminous tone. The performance was serene and lyrical — a lovely reminder of the instrument’s ethereal beauty. Our final performer, Moli Li, brought a sense of bright classical refinement to the programme. Her opening work, Clementi’s Spiritoso, sparkled with crisp precision and joyful energy. Moli’s steady tempo and poised dynamics reflected an excellent understanding of classical style. She followed with Kuhlau’s Sonatina in C Major, a piece full of youthful charm and elegant simplicity. Moli’s performance was both disciplined and expressive together with bright energy and clean articulation. The scalic and arpeggio passages flowed effortlessly while maintaining the poise and symmetry so characteristic of Kuhlau’s writing. She captured the conversational quality of the music, phrases exchanged naturally, cadences neatly shaped, and dynamics carefully graded to reveal the movement’s buoyant character. Overall, the recital was a true celebration of young musicianship. Each performer displayed not only skill and dedication but also an authentic love of music. From Baroque dances to contemporary lyricism, the programme offered a wonderful journey through sound — and the audience’s enthusiastic applause made clear that these young artists had left a lasting impression. Head of Music Mr Vine said ‘ what wonderful and spellbinding performances from all 3 of our young artists. Excellent choice of music and delivered with such professionalism and musical brilliance! Bravo to all 3 of you!’
By Sonja Mitchell November 5, 2025
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By Eleanor Lewis November 5, 2025
We started off the trip by going to see the moulin rouge which was filled with incredible dancing and singing on Tuesday evening. The musical was fun and full of energy, with lots of classic songs to sing along to. On Wednesday, we had a day filled with dance workshops at various places around London. We began the day with an amazing jazz class with Cris Penfold at London Studio Centre, a dance university in London. The class was filled with great energy and enthusiasm from everyone and introduced a new and unique style on jazz inspired by the great Gatsby. After this, we visited Pineapple studios in which we had a commercial class with Christina Andrea. She created a fun yet challenging atmosphere, pushing us out of our comfort zones focusing on our energy and versatility as dancers. Finally, we took part in a workshop with an original cast member of the Moulin Rouge in which we were able to learn repertoire from the show we had watched the previous night. She gave us an in-site into life in the industry which was very inspiring. Overall, the trip was one to remember and definitely a highlight in the dance calendar!  - Aggie Johnson, U5
By Eleanor Lewis November 4, 2025
On Tuesday 4 November, 13 runners from the Cross Country Club travelled to Witney in Oxfordshire for the Regional Round of the English Schools Cross Country Cup, having qualified last month in Woodbridge. The course was flat and fast, and the competition was fierce, with all runners having qualified from their county rounds to get there. In the Junior Boys race both Joshua Bevan and Jonty Croskell were racing against pupils a year older and ran strongly to finish 64 th and 85 th respectively. In the Junior Girls race, there were 80 runners from 14 schools, and our girls finished 11th, with excellent performances from Annabelle Hitchings, Iris Wells, Poppy Short and Emi Muntingh. Emi came 7 th overall. In the Senior Girls, our first finisher was Minnie Andrews in 25th place. The rest of the team were closely bunched with Bea Green, Izzy Last and Amelie Ivie all finishing in the top 35 and Olivia Allen and Bella Muntingh also finishing high in the results to secure 8 th place for the team. Well done to all those who took part.
By Eleanor Lewis October 30, 2025
I am very excited to announce that I have passed the audition and have been selected to be a member of the National Children’s Orchestra Of Great Britain 2026 playing my harp! The NCO is for children aged 8-14 and you can audition for either weekends or residential weeks. As this is my first national audition I decided to audition for weekends. This means I will be going to Birmingham in the Spring and Summer and also taking part in online creative activities, meet ups and webinars. Auditions for the NCO are done online. I had to play two contrasting pieces and give a small speech about why I like playing in ensembles and orchestras. The pieces I wanted to play were both too long so I had to make a few adaptions! Also, I am very grateful to have received a grant from the North Norfolk Festival of Performing Arts who have kindly paid the NCO membership fee for me. I am really looking forward to meeting other young people and harpists at the NCO weekends and learning more about playing in a large orchestra. - Timothy Madders, U4
By Eleanor Lewis October 24, 2025
Melissa Hawkings (U6) has become a full member of The National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain. To celebrate her success, Mrs Fry sat down with her and asked her some questions. Mrs Fry: Melissa, huge congratulations on becoming a full member of the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain. You’re not completely new to this, are you? Can you tell me what your involvement has been in NYO so far? Melissa Last year I was a residency guest so I took part in the spring in the summer concerts in the full horn section, including playing The Planets and Star Wars music at The Proms in the Royal Albert Hall, and the year before I was an associate member, which a nice introduction to NYO. One of the best concerts I played in was as an off stage horn in the Alpine Symphony conducted by Sir Mark Elder. Mrs Fry: Wow! That’s not an opportunity that comes around too often! A whole new learning curve for playing in time. What will it mean to you now that you’re a full member? What will your annual commitment be? Melissa: I’ll do three of the courses a year including the 14 day summer residency, four days of which is the concert tour. We might do some community work too, introducing instruments and music to young people. Mrs Fry: How does a residency day look? Melissa: We rehearse from 9am until 5pm with breaks and then again in the evening until 9pm. It’s a bit of a marathon! There is a rest day though. Sometimes we have full orchestra rehearsals, sometimes, full brass and sometimes horn sectionals. Mrs Fry: Do you get to see the music in advance of the course? Melissa: Yes, we get sent the music a month in advance so everyone turns up able to play everything. Because of this we can spend time on interpretation and really playing together which is what makes NYO so good. Mrs Fry: Melissa, you don’t get to be an elite level musician playing at National level by accident. Tell me about your journey to NYO. Melissa: When I was about 10 I went to an NYM (Norfolk Youth Music, now Guildhall Young Artists) Open Day days at CNS where you could try different instruments. I don’t know why I chose the horn. It just felt fun and was the most unusual. I wanted to be different so I chose it! I remember when I got home trying for ages to play a scale. I kept playing over and over again until I could play it. Then I took part in groups at school and when I felt more confident with my playing I joined the County Youth Wind Band. A little later I joined the Norfolk County Youth Orchestra where I was a member for 3 years. I think NCYO was actually really important for me because it’s how I got I to orchestral playing. I remember the first thing we did was Beethoven 5. It was really exciting. I was so nervous I was barely playing because everyone was older than me! I just kept doing it because I really liked the music. And then after that, I started going to Junior Guildhall in London on Saturdays which pushed me to the next level, playing with people from all over the country. The highlight of that for me was lots of chamber music playing. I’m now at Junior Royal College with a new teacher on Saturdays, leaving Norwich station at 0630 and returning home by 7pm or so. Mrs Fry: Long day! We’ve spoken a lot about the orchestral side of things and the coaching that you get outside of your daily routine but what does it what’s required of you to get to your level as an individual? What do you do on a daily basis? Your fitness routine? Melissa: Early in the morning, I have a half an hour warmup routine where I do different technical exercises just to make sure every aspect of my playing stays in shape: if you don’t use it, you lose it! Not every day is the same due to school commitments, but ideally I’ll do three hours practice. That’s what I did when I was preparing for the auditions: I like to do like an hour of technique, an hour on the excerpts and then an hour on my pieces. When I’m consistently doing three hours practice I notice such a difference in my playing - it’s like an athlete, you need constantly to be playing and being mindful of how you play - efficient and good practice is so important. Mrs Fry: There must be pieces of music that is special to you or musicians that have inspired you? Melissa: Right now, my favourite composer is Stravinsky. I loved playing Firebird at 14. I thought this is the most crazy, insane thing I’ve ever heard! The horn parts are amazing! That lead me into listening to The Rite of Spring and then I played Petrushka in NYO last spring at the Roundhouse in Camden. I also like Debussy and Ravel. The horn player who has inspired me is Sarah Willis, the 4th horn player in the Berlin Philharmonic. She’s not just a classical horn player - she’s recorded the Mozart horn concertos reimagined with Latin influences. Mrs Fry: Sounds slightly different to the Norwich Baroque version coming up in March when you will perform one of the Mozart concertos in the Norwich School Choral Society concert! Melissa: Yes! I also watched a masterclass with her where she made instant differences to peoples’ playing. I also really like Ben Goldscheider, a young horn player. We share the same teacher. Mrs Fry: So, what next for Melissa Hawkings the horn player? Melissa: I’m hoping to go to conservatoire next year. My dream career is to be an orchestral player but now I just want to see where it takes me - what kind of ensembles I might play in as I go through conservatoire and beyond. Mrs Fry: Who knows, you could follow Sarah Willis’s trailblazing footsteps to the Berlin Phil. Good luck with it all. If you have been inspired by Melissa’s musical journey and want to follow in her footsteps, here are some links to the local music groups she joined: https://www.gsmd.ac.uk/study-with-guildhall/children-and-young-people/guildhall-young-artists/guildhall-young-artists-norwich https://www.gsmd.ac.uk/study-with-guildhall/children-and-young-people/guildhall-young-artists/guildhall-young-artists-norwich/norfolk-county-youth-orchestra And tickets to NYO concerts are free for teens! Next up ‘Shimmer’ in January. Details here: https://www.nyo.org.uk/performances/shimmer Concert tour highlights - https://youtu.be/oVDFRtvPxsE?si=QqYITRq7GpjaBMp9 Jupiter in rehearsal - https://youtu.be/Hl2iTL4tnxk?si=UeWadansnIeV_x7e
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